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Welcome to No Manual Included, the podcast where two Kansas superintendents dig into what it really means to lead in a world where there’s no instruction book for the challenges we face. I’m Greg Lehr from USD 262, joined by Dr. Ron Barry from USD 440, and every episode we have candid conversations about leadership, growth, and the future of education in Kansas.

We explore with our guests the experiences that shape us, the decisions that define us, and the communication and collaboration that make strong school communities possible. If you’re an educator, leader, or someone who cares deeply about the direction of our schools, you’re in the right place.

Let’s dive in — because leadership doesn’t come with a manual, but we can learn a lot by talking through it together.

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