No Manual Included- A Kansas Education Podcast on Leadership

Welcome to No Manual Included, the podcast where two Kansas superintendents dig into what it really means to lead in a world where there’s no instruction book for the challenges we face. I’m Greg Lehr from USD 262, joined by Dr. Ron Barry from USD 440, and every episode we have candid conversations about leadership, growth, and the future of education in Kansas.

We explore with our guests the experiences that shape us, the decisions that define us, and the communication and collaboration that make strong school communities possible. If you’re an educator, leader, or someone who cares deeply about the direction of our schools, you’re in the right place.

Let’s dive in — because leadership doesn’t come with a manual, but we can learn a lot by talking through it together.



Episodes

5 days ago

33 min

In this episode of No Manual Included, Greg Lehr and Ronald Barry are joined by Dr. Brent Yeager, Superintendent of Olathe Public Schools, for a conversation about what it really takes to lead one of Kansas' largest and most recognized school districts. From building a strong culture and navigating change to preparing students for an unpredictable future, Dr. Yeager shares lessons learned from a career dedicated to serving students, supporting educators, and strengthening communities.

Jul 8, 2026

36 min

In this episode of No Manual Included, hosts Greg Lehr and Ron Barry sit down with Jamie Rumford, Superintendent of Scott County Schools USD 466, to discuss leadership, rural education, and the importance of building a strong school culture. Jamie shares insights from his more than three decades in education and reflects on his journey leading Scott County Schools since 2014.
In addition to leading USD 466, Jamie has served as President of the Kansas School Superintendents Association (KSSA), providing leadership and advocacy for school districts across the state. His service at the state level reflects his commitment to supporting fellow educational leaders and strengthening public education throughout Kansas.

Jun 18, 2026

25 min

In Episode 8 of No Manual Included, Greg and Ron sit down with former Superintendent of the year Craig Correll from USD 445 Coffeyville Public Schools.  Dr. Correll is a strong advocate for public education across the state of Kansas and has held leadership roles in KSSA.  

Jun 3, 2026

37 min

Join Greg and Ron as they do a live podcast from the USAKansas Conference with the Kansas Commissioner of Education, Dr. Randy Watson.  Greg and Ron sit down with Dr. Watson and fellow administrators as he reflects on his career as a teacher, coach, building administrator, assistant superintendent, superintendent, and Commissioner of Education at KSDE.  

May 14, 2026

33 min

Greg and Ron sit down with the Superintendent of USD 210, Adrain Howie to discuss the people that had the greatest impact on his leadership journey, how he adapts his leadership style, his passion for western Kansas school districts, and so much more!  

Apr 29, 2026

29 min

Greg and Ron link up with the USD 313 Superintendent of Schools, Cindy Couchman, from Buhler, Kansas.  Cindy longtime classroom teacher and Kansas Teach of the Year winner, who then served as Curriculum Director, and finally transitioned into the Superintendent role in the community that she has served for many years.  She is the current Kansas School Superintendent Association President, where she guides our professional organization through advocacy, recognition, and continued education.  

Apr 15, 2026

26 min

Greg and Ron welcome Dr. Cory Gibson, Superintendent at USD 232 DeSoto Schools where he shares his unique connection to our two hosts.  

Apr 1, 2026

24 min

Join Ron and Greg as they welcome their 3rd guest on the podcast, Don Potter.  Don currently is the superintendent at Circle USD 375 and has served in that position since 2017.  He has over 27 years of experience in K12 education serving as a teacher, coach, principal, and district administrator .  He was a 2024 Superintendent of the Year Finalist for the state of Kansas and previously served as the Superintendent of USD 461 in Neodesha, Kansas.  

Mar 20, 2026

31 min

Mar 1, 2026

37 min

Welcome to our first episode of No Manual Included!  Join Greg and Ron as they interview their first guest, Mr. Don Epps, Superintendent USD 344 Pleasanton Schools! 

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