No Manual Included- A Kansas Education Podcast on Leadership
Welcome to No Manual Included, the podcast where two Kansas superintendents dig into what it really means to lead in a world where there’s no instruction book for the challenges we face. I’m Greg Lehr from USD 262, joined by Dr. Ron Barry from USD 440, and every episode we have candid conversations about leadership, growth, and the future of education in Kansas.
We explore with our guests the experiences that shape us, the decisions that define us, and the communication and collaboration that make strong school communities possible. If you’re an educator, leader, or someone who cares deeply about the direction of our schools, you’re in the right place.
Let’s dive in — because leadership doesn’t come with a manual, but we can learn a lot by talking through it together.
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Episodes
5 days ago
5 days ago
Join Greg and Ron as they do a live podcast from the USAKansas Conference with the Kansas Commissioner of Education, Dr. Randy Watson. Greg and Ron sit down with Dr. Watson and fellow administrators as he reflects on his career as a teacher, coach, building administrator, assistant superintendent, superintendent, and Commissioner of Education at KSDE.
Thursday May 14, 2026
Thursday May 14, 2026
Greg and Ron sit down with the Superintendent of USD 210, Adrain Howie to discuss the people that had the greatest impact on his leadership journey, how he adapts his leadership style, his passion for western Kansas school districts, and so much more!
Wednesday Apr 29, 2026
Wednesday Apr 29, 2026
Greg and Ron link up with the USD 313 Superintendent of Schools, Cindy Couchman, from Buhler, Kansas. Cindy longtime classroom teacher and Kansas Teach of the Year winner, who then served as Curriculum Director, and finally transitioned into the Superintendent role in the community that she has served for many years. She is the current Kansas School Superintendent Association President, where she guides our professional organization through advocacy, recognition, and continued education.
Wednesday Apr 15, 2026
Wednesday Apr 15, 2026
Greg and Ron welcome Dr. Cory Gibson, Superintendent at USD 232 DeSoto Schools where he shares his unique connection to our two hosts.
Wednesday Apr 01, 2026
Wednesday Apr 01, 2026
Join Ron and Greg as they welcome their 3rd guest on the podcast, Don Potter. Don currently is the superintendent at Circle USD 375 and has served in that position since 2017. He has over 27 years of experience in K12 education serving as a teacher, coach, principal, and district administrator . He was a 2024 Superintendent of the Year Finalist for the state of Kansas and previously served as the Superintendent of USD 461 in Neodesha, Kansas.
Friday Mar 20, 2026
Sunday Mar 01, 2026
Sunday Mar 01, 2026
Welcome to our first episode of No Manual Included! Join Greg and Ron as they interview their first guest, Mr. Don Epps, Superintendent USD 344 Pleasanton Schools!